2022-23 · Regular Season · Final
Phoenix Suns at San Antonio Spurs
Sunday, December 4, 2022 · tip-off time not recorded
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Forecast and result
| Team | Projected | Final | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| PHX Phoenix Suns | 123 | 133 | +10 |
| SAS San Antonio Spurs (home) | 115 | 95 | −20 |
Forecast: Phoenix Suns to win, 70% win probability, projected margin 8.
Inside the Forecast
How the inputs are builtWhat the model received
| Input | PHX | SAS |
|---|---|---|
| Elo ratingMargin-of-victory Elo; 1500 is average. | 1608 | 1360 |
| Elo gap, home minus road, incl. home court | −179 | |
| Season scoring marginPoints per game, blended with last season early in the year. | +7.0 | −10.7 |
| Games played this season | 22 | 23 |
| Offensive rating, last 10Points scored per 100 possessions. | 119.6 | 103.8 |
| Defensive rating, last 10Points allowed per 100 possessions; lower is better. | 112.5 | 121.3 |
| Combined pace, last 10Possessions per game, both teams. | 101.2 | |
| Rotation points missingPoints per game of rotation players listed Out or Doubtful. | 10.1 | 41.2 |
| Rest days | 2 | 2 |
| Second night of a back-to-back | No | No |
This forecast can't be broken down exactly: the model version that made this forecast is not available. Explanations are shown only when the model that made a forecast can be rebuilt and reproduces it. How explanations are checked
Built from the box scores
How the breakdowns workWhere each input came from. Open a row to see the games and box-score stats behind it. A breakdown is shown only when rebuilding it from the stored stats gives exactly the number the model received.
Elo ratingPHX1608SAS1360
Updated after every game from the final score only: wins, losses and margin. Each season starts by keeping 75% of last season's distance from the 1500 average.
PHX1608
- Ended last season at 1599 → started this one at 1574
- First 12 games: +14.0
- Last 10 games: +20.1
- L@MIA112–113−3.4
- WGSW130–119+8.3
- L@UTA133–134−3.6
- WNYK116–95+8.5
- WLAL115–105+3.4
- WDET108–102+1.9
- WUTA113–112+2.2
- W@SAC122–117+5.7
- WCHI132–113+6.8
- LHOU121–122−9.7
SAS1360
- Ended last season at 1486 → started this one at 1489
- First 13 games: −25.8
- Last 10 games: −103.6
- L@GSW95–132−11.8
- L@POR110–117−7.3
- L@SAC112–130−10.4
- L@LAC97–119−10.5
- L@LAL92–123−18.3
- LNOP110–129−10.6
- LLAL94–105−12.8
- LLAL138–143−7.5
- L@OKC111–119−6.1
- LNOP99–117−8.3
Season scoring marginPHX+7.0SAS−10.7
Points scored minus points allowed per game this season, mixed with last season's margin until 20 games are played.
PHX+7.0
Scores 116.0, allows 109.0 over 22 games: +7.0 a game.
SAS−10.7
Scores 110.1, allows 120.8 over 23 games: −10.7 a game.
Offensive rating, last 10PHX119.6SAS103.8
Points scored per 100 possessions. Split into the four factors: right of center helps the team, left hurts, in points per 100 possessions compared with the league average (2022-23 to date: 112.2).
PHX119.6scored, +7.4 vs league
| Factor | PHX | League | hurtshelps | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Shooting (eFG%) | 56.5% | 54.0% | +3.8 | |
| Turnovers (TOV%) | 11.6% | 12.7% | +1.5 | |
| Offensive rebounding (OREB%) | 29.6% | 23.9% | +2.5 | |
| Free throws (FTM per FGA) | 0.164 | 0.209 | −1.3 | |
| Everything else | +0.9 |
SAS103.8scored, −8.3 vs league
| Factor | SAS | League | hurtshelps | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Shooting (eFG%) | 49.6% | 54.0% | −6.7 | |
| Turnovers (TOV%) | 12.6% | 12.7% | +0.2 | |
| Offensive rebounding (OREB%) | 27.0% | 23.9% | +1.4 | |
| Free throws (FTM per FGA) | 0.142 | 0.209 | −1.9 | |
| Everything else | −1.2 |
Defensive rating, last 10PHX112.5SAS121.3
Points allowed per 100 possessions, built from what opponents did in those games. Bars point right when the defense held opponents below average. Split into the four factors: right of center helps the team, left hurts, in points per 100 possessions compared with the league average (2022-23 to date: 112.2).
PHX112.5allowed, +0.4 vs league
| Factor | Opponents | League | hurtshelps | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Shooting (eFG%) | 53.4% | 54.0% | +0.9 | |
| Turnovers (TOV%) | 13.0% | 12.7% | +0.4 | |
| Offensive rebounding (OREB%) | 23.7% | 23.9% | +0.1 | |
| Free throws (FTM per FGA) | 0.254 | 0.209 | −1.3 | |
| Everything else | −0.5 |
SAS121.3allowed, +9.2 vs league
| Factor | Opponents | League | hurtshelps | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Shooting (eFG%) | 61.3% | 54.0% | −11.1 | |
| Turnovers (TOV%) | 13.1% | 12.7% | +0.7 | |
| Offensive rebounding (OREB%) | 20.1% | 23.9% | +1.7 | |
| Free throws (FTM per FGA) | 0.234 | 0.209 | −0.7 | |
| Everything else | +0.3 |
Pace, last 10average 101.2
Possessions per 48 minutes. The model uses the average of the two teams. Faster games mean more points for both sides, so pace mostly moves the projected total, not the margin.
PHX 100.7 and SAS 101.8 → average 101.3 (league 2022-23 to date: 100.1)
Rotation points missingPHX10.1SAS41.2
Points per game of rotation players (two or more of the last 10 games this season, 15+ minutes) listed Out or Doubtful on the official injury report.
PHX10.1pts/g missing
| Player | Pts | Min | Games |
|---|---|---|---|
| Torrey Craig | 10.1 | 29.5 | 9 |
Source: official injury report, 2022-12-04 17:30 ET. 8 rotation players.
SAS41.2pts/g missing
| Player | Pts | Min | Games |
|---|---|---|---|
| Jakob Poeltl | 13.3 | 23.6 | 7 |
| Doug McDermott | 10.7 | 20.0 | 7 |
| Jeremy Sochan | 9.4 | 26.4 | 8 |
| Josh Richardson | 7.8 | 21.9 | 5 |
Source: official injury report, 2022-12-04 17:30 ET. 11 rotation players.
RestPHX2 daysSAS2 days
Days since the team's previous game, capped at 5. One day means the second night of a back-to-back.
PHX2days
Last played Dec 2 against HOU.
SAS2days
Last played Dec 2 against NOP.
The last 10 games behind these numbers, box-score totals
PHX
| Date | Opp | Score | FG | 3P | FT | TOV | OREB | Off | Def | Pace |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dec 2 | HOU | 121–122 | 45-85 | 17-37 | 14-19 | 17 | 9 | 122.2 | 122.0 | 99.5 |
| Nov 30 | CHI | 132–113 | 49-93 | 15-33 | 19-21 | 13 | 10 | 126.9 | 108.7 | 104.0 |
| Nov 28 | @SAC | 122–117 | 50-94 | 10-32 | 12-14 | 17 | 11 | 117.3 | 111.4 | 104.5 |
| Nov 26 | UTA | 113–112 | 42-92 | 6-22 | 23-30 | 6 | 18 | 120.2 | 119.1 | 94.0 |
| Nov 25 | DET | 108–102 | 42-87 | 7-29 | 17-26 | 13 | 11 | 108.0 | 103.0 | 99.5 |
| Nov 22 | LAL | 115–105 | 48-102 | 16-34 | 3-5 | 15 | 8 | 106.5 | 95.5 | 109.0 |
| Nov 20 | NYK | 116–95 | 43-101 | 17-39 | 13-18 | 13 | 22 | 122.1 | 99.0 | 95.5 |
| Nov 18 | @UTA | 133–134 | 49-94 | 9-30 | 26-28 | 14 | 12 | 127.9 | 131.4 | 103.0 |
| Nov 16 | GSW | 130–119 | 44-86 | 21-40 | 21-25 | 15 | 8 | 121.5 | 111.2 | 107.0 |
| Nov 14 | @MIA | 112–113 | 48-99 | 14-36 | 2-4 | 11 | 20 | 123.1 | 124.2 | 91.0 |
SAS
| Date | Opp | Score | FG | 3P | FT | TOV | OREB | Off | Def | Pace |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dec 2 | NOP | 99–117 | 38-98 | 11-39 | 12-16 | 12 | 10 | 94.3 | 113.6 | 104.0 |
| Nov 30 | @OKC | 111–119 | 41-92 | 10-37 | 19-25 | 10 | 13 | 108.8 | 119.0 | 101.0 |
| Nov 26 | LAL | 138–143 | 53-105 | 18-37 | 14-20 | 10 | 17 | 129.0 | 132.4 | 107.5 |
| Nov 25 | LAL | 94–105 | 38-100 | 6-33 | 12-16 | 16 | 20 | 92.2 | 102.9 | 102.0 |
| Nov 23 | NOP | 110–129 | 41-85 | 10-34 | 18-28 | 18 | 8 | 103.8 | 120.6 | 106.5 |
| Nov 20 | @LAL | 92–123 | 41-105 | 7-34 | 3-10 | 10 | 13 | 88.5 | 118.3 | 104.0 |
| Nov 19 | @LAC | 97–119 | 36-87 | 7-26 | 18-21 | 15 | 15 | 102.1 | 124.0 | 95.5 |
| Nov 17 | @SAC | 112–130 | 46-84 | 11-26 | 9-12 | 18 | 7 | 113.1 | 131.3 | 99.0 |
| Nov 15 | @POR | 110–117 | 44-85 | 9-29 | 13-17 | 19 | 11 | 112.2 | 120.6 | 97.5 |
| Nov 14 | @GSW | 95–132 | 36-100 | 10-40 | 13-19 | 18 | 22 | 94.1 | 130.7 | 101.0 |
Off and Def are points scored and allowed per 100 possessions in each game; their averages are the 10-game ratings above. OREB is missing (–) where the source data didn't record it.
The result against the forecast
2022-23 surprise gamesSurprise is measured against this model's forecast, not against what other observers expected. Outcome surprise is −ln(winner's pregame probability): 0.69 for a coin flip, 2.3 for a 10% winner.
Team box score
What happened in the game. These numbers are not used by the forecast, and they are not offered as the reason it missed.
| Team stat | PHX | SAS |
|---|---|---|
| Final score | 133 | 95 |
| Field goals | 49–94 · 52.1% | 38–87 · 43.7% |
| Three-pointers | 19–37 · 51.4% | 6–31 · 19.4% |
| Free throws | 16–20 · 80.0% | 13–18 · 72.2% |
| Rebounds | 45 | 40 |
| Assists | 38 | 19 |
| Turnovers | 11 | 19 |
| Steals | 5 | 5 |
| Blocks | 0 | 3 |
How the model does with these teams over time: Phoenix Suns · San Antonio Spurs
Where the forecast differed from the result
| Measure | Forecast | Actual | Actual − forecast |
|---|---|---|---|
| Home margin (SAS) | −8 | −38 | −30 |
| Total points | 238 | 228 | −10 |
| PHX points | 123 | 133 | +10 |
| SAS points | 115 | 95 | −20 |
Recent form before this game
Previous meetings
| Date | Matchup | Score |
|---|---|---|
| Jan 30 2021-22 | SAS at PHX | SAS 110 – 115 PHX |
| Jan 17 2021-22 | PHX at SAS | PHX 121 – 107 SAS |
| Dec 6 2021-22 | SAS at PHX | SAS 104 – 108 PHX |
| Nov 22 2021-22 | PHX at SAS | PHX 115 – 111 SAS |