← Forecasts for Nov 30

2023-24 · Regular Season · Final

Charlotte Hornets at Brooklyn Nets

Thursday, November 30, 2023 · tip-off time not recorded

CHA 0–0@BKN 0–0 records going into the game NBA.com recap ↗

Win probability as a share of the court: CHA 24 percent, BKN 76 percent. CHA Hornets 24% proj. 106 · final 129 BKN Nets · home 76% proj. 118 · final 128
Each team's share of the floor is its pregame win probability. The line starts at midcourt and moves to the split.

Forecast and result

TeamProjectedFinalDifference
CHA Charlotte Hornets 106 129 +23
BKN Brooklyn Nets (home) 118 128 +10

Forecast: Brooklyn Nets to win, 76% win probability, projected margin 12.

Inside the Forecast

How the inputs are built
What the model received
InputCHABKN
Elo ratingMargin-of-victory Elo; 1500 is average. 13591517
Elo gap, home minus road, incl. home court +228
Season scoring marginPoints per game, blended with last season early in the year. −8.5+1.2
Games played this season 1617
Offensive rating, last 10Points scored per 100 possessions. 110.5115.6
Defensive rating, last 10Points allowed per 100 possessions; lower is better. 121.6113.0
Combined pace, last 10Possessions per game, both teams. 98.2
Rotation points missingPoints per game of rotation players listed Out or Doubtful. 39.77.4
Rest days 22
Second night of a back-to-back NoNo

This forecast can't be broken down exactly: the model version that made this forecast is not available. Explanations are shown only when the model that made a forecast can be rebuilt and reproduces it. How explanations are checked

Built from the box scores

How the breakdowns work

Where each input came from. Open a row to see the games and box-score stats behind it. A breakdown is shown only when rebuilding it from the stored stats gives exactly the number the model received.

Elo ratingCHA1359BKN1517

Updated after every game from the final score only: wins, losses and margin. Each season starts by keeping 75% of last season's distance from the 1500 average.

CHA1359

1500
  1. Ended last season at 1388 → started this one at 1416
  2. First 6 games: −28.9
  3. Last 10 games: −27.6
  • LWAS116–132−15.9
  • W@WAS124–117+13.0
  • L@NYK107–129−5.4
  • LMIA105–111−4.7
  • LMIL99–130−15.1
  • LNYK108–122−6.6
  • WBOS121–118+11.5
  • WWAS117–114+4.7
  • L@ORL117–130−4.1
  • L@NYK91–115−5.0

BKN1517

1500
  1. Ended last season at 1485 → started this one at 1489
  2. First 7 games: +1.8
  3. Last 10 games: +26.9
  • WLAC100–93+7.2
  • L@BOS107–121−4.9
  • WWAS102–94+5.1
  • WORL124–104+11.5
  • L@MIA115–122−4.8
  • LPHI99–121−14.9
  • L@ATL145–147−3.3
  • WMIA112–97+16.1
  • WCHI118–109+5.8
  • WTOR115–103+9.1
Season scoring marginCHA−8.5BKN+1.2

Points scored minus points allowed per game this season, mixed with last season's margin until 20 games are played.

CHA−8.5

Scores 112.7, allows 121.8 over 16 games: −9.1 a game.

80% this season (−9.1) + 20% last season (−6.2) = −8.5

BKN+1.2

Scores 115.3, allows 113.9 over 17 games: +1.4 a game.

85% this season (+1.4) + 15% last season (+0.3) = +1.2

Offensive rating, last 10CHA110.5BKN115.6

Points scored per 100 possessions. Split into the four factors: right of center helps the team, left hurts, in points per 100 possessions compared with the league average (2023-24 to date: 113.6).

CHA110.5scored, −3.1 vs league

FactorCHALeaguehurtshelpsPts
Shooting (eFG%)53.1%54.1%−1.4
Turnovers (TOV%)12.8%12.1%−1.0
Offensive rebounding (OREB%)25.9%24.7%+0.5
Free throws (FTM per FGA)0.1690.204−1.0
Everything else−0.2

BKN115.6scored, +2.0 vs league

FactorBKNLeaguehurtshelpsPts
Shooting (eFG%)55.1%54.1%+1.6
Turnovers (TOV%)12.2%12.1%−0.2
Offensive rebounding (OREB%)27.3%24.7%+1.2
Free throws (FTM per FGA)0.1830.204−0.6
Everything else+0.1
Defensive rating, last 10CHA121.6BKN113.0

Points allowed per 100 possessions, built from what opponents did in those games. Bars point right when the defense held opponents below average. Split into the four factors: right of center helps the team, left hurts, in points per 100 possessions compared with the league average (2023-24 to date: 113.6).

CHA121.6allowed, +8.1 vs league

FactorOpponentsLeaguehurtshelpsPts
Shooting (eFG%)57.4%54.1%−5.1
Turnovers (TOV%)10.5%12.1%−2.2
Offensive rebounding (OREB%)23.5%24.7%+0.6
Free throws (FTM per FGA)0.2020.204+0.1
Everything else−1.4

BKN113.0allowed, −0.5 vs league

FactorOpponentsLeaguehurtshelpsPts
Shooting (eFG%)51.3%54.1%+4.2
Turnovers (TOV%)9.8%12.1%−3.2
Offensive rebounding (OREB%)24.6%24.7%+0.1
Free throws (FTM per FGA)0.1890.204+0.4
Everything else−0.9
Pace, last 10average 98.2

Possessions per 48 minutes. The model uses the average of the two teams. Faster games mean more points for both sides, so pace mostly moves the projected total, not the margin.

CHA 99.1 and BKN 97.3 → average 98.2 (league 2023-24 to date: 99.9)

Rotation points missingCHA39.7BKN7.4

Points per game of rotation players (two or more of the last 10 games this season, 15+ minutes) listed Out or Doubtful on the official injury report.

CHA39.7pts/g missing

PlayerPtsMinGames
LaMelo Ball29.734.79
Nick Richards10.017.55

Source: official injury report, 2023-11-30 17:30 ET. 11 rotation players.

BKN7.4pts/g missing

PlayerPtsMinGames
Dennis Smith Jr.7.421.35

Source: official injury report, 2023-11-30 17:30 ET. 10 rotation players.

RestCHA2 daysBKN2 days

Days since the team's previous game, capped at 5. One day means the second night of a back-to-back.

CHA2days

Last played Nov 28 against NYK.

BKN2days

Last played Nov 28 against TOR.

The last 10 games behind these numbers, box-score totals

CHA

DateOppScoreFG3PFTTOVOREBOffDefPace
Nov 28@NYK91–11537-8913-314-7171395.8119.895.5
Nov 26@ORL117–13044-8313-3016-25185110.4123.8105.5
Nov 22WAS117–11443-9116-3715-211211117.0112.9100.5
Nov 20BOS121–11846-10413-3916-171317113.1108.397.8
Nov 18NYK108–12240-8217-3511-13134112.5127.196.0
Nov 17MIL99–13037-916-2619-2212996.1126.2103.0
Nov 14MIA105–11136-8115-3218-221813111.7115.695.0
Nov 12@NYK107–12944-9412-357-111215113.8138.793.5
Nov 10@WAS124–11750-1106-2818-28928120.4115.8102.0
Nov 8WAS116–13241-798-2526-352011113.7128.2102.5

BKN

DateOppScoreFG3PFTTOVOREBOffDefPace
Nov 28TOR115–10340-8913-3822-261513115.0104.099.5
Nov 26CHI118–10941-8325-5311-1598128.3118.592.0
Nov 25MIA112–9739-7814-3620-23118117.9101.095.5
Nov 22@ATL145–14755-11315-3520-241622125.0126.7105.1
Nov 19PHI99–12138-8111-2812-16159103.1127.495.5
Nov 16@MIA115–12240-8514-3621-271410125.0131.292.5
Nov 14ORL124–10446-8519-3913-201513130.5109.595.0
Nov 12WAS102–9437-9812-4916-20182099.091.3103.0
Nov 10@BOS107–12138-8515-3716-18109109.2126.097.0
Nov 8LAC100–9337-9215-4111-131414103.194.997.5

Off and Def are points scored and allowed per 100 possessions in each game; their averages are the 10-game ratings above. OREB is missing (–) where the source data didn't record it.

The result against the forecast

2023-24 surprise games
24%
pregame chance the forecast gave CHA, the winner
the forecast favored BKN
13 pts
margin miss
forecast +12, actual −1 for BKN
9th
most surprising result of 2023-24
of 1,312 graded games
427th
largest margin miss of 2023-24
outcome surprise 1.44 nats

Surprise is measured against this model's forecast, not against what other observers expected. Outcome surprise is −ln(winner's pregame probability): 0.69 for a coin flip, 2.3 for a 10% winner.

Team box score

What happened in the game. These numbers are not used by the forecast, and they are not offered as the reason it missed.

Team statCHABKN
Final score129128
Field goals46–91 · 50.5%52–105 · 49.5%
Three-pointers21–36 · 58.3%14–36 · 38.9%
Free throws16–16 · 100.0%10–15 · 66.7%
Rebounds4152
Assists3021
Turnovers99
Steals66
Blocks74

Where the forecast differed from the result

MeasureForecastActualActual − forecast
Home margin (BKN)+12−1−13
Total points224257+33
CHA points106129+23
BKN points118128+10

Score by quarter

TeamQ1Q2Q3Q4OTFinal
CHA31422927–129
BKN37343522–128

Recent form before this game

Charlotte Hornets

DateOpponentResult
Nov 28 at NYK L 91–115
Nov 26 at ORL L 117–130
Nov 22 vs WAS W 117–114
Nov 20 vs BOS W 121–118
Nov 18 vs NYK L 108–122

Brooklyn Nets

DateOpponentResult
Nov 28 vs TOR W 115–103
Nov 26 vs CHI W 118–109
Nov 25 vs MIA W 112–97
Nov 22 at ATL L 145–147
Nov 19 vs PHI L 99–121

Previous meetings

DateMatchupScore
Oct 30 2023-24 BKN at CHA BKN 133 – 121 CHA
Mar 5 2022-23 CHA at BKN CHA 86 – 102 BKN
Dec 31 2022-23 BKN at CHA BKN 123 – 106 CHA
Dec 7 2022-23 CHA at BKN CHA 116 – 122 BKN
Nov 5 2022-23 BKN at CHA BKN 98 – 94 CHA