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2022-23 · Regular Season · Final

Golden State Warriors at Phoenix Suns

Tuesday, October 25, 2022 · tip-off time not recorded

GSW 0–0@PHX 0–0 records going into the game NBA.com recap ↗

Win probability as a share of the court: GSW 55 percent, PHX 45 percent. GSW Golden State Warriors 55% proj. 107 · final 105 PHX Suns · home 45% proj. 105 · final 134
Each team's share of the floor is its pregame win probability. The line starts at midcourt and moves to the split.

Forecast and result

TeamProjectedFinalDifference
GSW Golden State Warriors 107 105 −2
PHX Phoenix Suns (home) 105 134 +29

Forecast: Golden State Warriors to win, 55% win probability, projected margin 2.

Inside the Forecast

How the inputs are built
What the model received
InputGSWPHX
Elo ratingMargin-of-victory Elo; 1500 is average. 16411586
Elo gap, home minus road, incl. home court +15
Season scoring marginPoints per game, blended with last season early in the year. +5.3+6.2
Games played this season 33
Offensive rating, last 10Points scored per 100 possessions. 112.7111.6
Defensive rating, last 10Points allowed per 100 possessions; lower is better. 108.6111.2
Combined pace, last 10Possessions per game, both teams. 97.1
Rotation points missingPoints per game of rotation players listed Out or Doubtful. 0.00.0
Rest days 22
Second night of a back-to-back NoNo

This forecast can't be broken down exactly: the model version that made this forecast is not available. Explanations are shown only when the model that made a forecast can be rebuilt and reproduces it. How explanations are checked

Built from the box scores

How the breakdowns work

Where each input came from. Open a row to see the games and box-score stats behind it. A breakdown is shown only when rebuilding it from the stored stats gives exactly the number the model received.

Elo ratingGSW1641PHX1586

Updated after every game from the final score only: wins, losses and margin. Each season starts by keeping 75% of last season's distance from the 1500 average.

GSW1641

1500
  1. Ended last season at 1699 → started this one at 1649
  2. This season's 3 games: −8.3
  • WLAL123–109+3.4
  • LDEN123–128−13.3
  • WSAC130–125+1.6

PHX1586

1500
  1. Ended last season at 1599 → started this one at 1574
  2. This season's 3 games: +11.9
  • WDAL107–105+3.9
  • L@POR111–113−8.4
  • W@LAC112–95+16.4
Season scoring marginGSW+5.3PHX+6.2

Points scored minus points allowed per game this season, mixed with last season's margin until 20 games are played.

GSW+5.3

Scores 125.3, allows 120.7 over 3 games: +4.7 a game.

15% this season (+4.7) + 85% last season (+5.4) = +5.3

PHX+6.2

Scores 110.0, allows 104.3 over 3 games: +5.7 a game.

15% this season (+5.7) + 85% last season (+6.3) = +6.2

Offensive rating, last 10GSW112.7PHX111.6

Points scored per 100 possessions. Split into the four factors: right of center helps the team, left hurts, in points per 100 possessions compared with the league average (2021-22: 111.4).

GSW112.7scored, +1.3 vs league

FactorGSWLeaguehurtshelpsPts
Shooting (eFG%)54.9%53.3%+2.5
Turnovers (TOV%)12.4%11.8%−0.8
Offensive rebounding (OREB%)22.2%23.0%−0.3
Free throws (FTM per FGA)0.1750.196−0.6
Everything else+0.6

PHX111.6scored, +0.2 vs league

FactorPHXLeaguehurtshelpsPts
Shooting (eFG%)53.7%53.3%+0.6
Turnovers (TOV%)13.5%11.8%−2.4
Offensive rebounding (OREB%)25.6%23.0%+1.2
Free throws (FTM per FGA)0.1780.196−0.5
Everything else+1.4
Defensive rating, last 10GSW108.6PHX111.2

Points allowed per 100 possessions, built from what opponents did in those games. Bars point right when the defense held opponents below average. Split into the four factors: right of center helps the team, left hurts, in points per 100 possessions compared with the league average (2021-22: 111.4).

GSW108.6allowed, −2.8 vs league

FactorOpponentsLeaguehurtshelpsPts
Shooting (eFG%)53.0%53.3%+0.3
Turnovers (TOV%)14.4%11.8%+3.7
Offensive rebounding (OREB%)23.4%23.0%−0.2
Free throws (FTM per FGA)0.1970.196−0.0
Everything else−1.1

PHX111.2allowed, −0.2 vs league

FactorOpponentsLeaguehurtshelpsPts
Shooting (eFG%)54.4%53.3%−1.8
Turnovers (TOV%)11.4%11.8%−0.6
Offensive rebounding (OREB%)19.1%23.0%+1.8
Free throws (FTM per FGA)0.2330.196−1.1
Everything else+1.9
Pace, last 10average 97.1

Possessions per 48 minutes. The model uses the average of the two teams. Faster games mean more points for both sides, so pace mostly moves the projected total, not the margin.

GSW 99.6 and PHX 94.5 → average 97.1 (league 2021-22: 98.6)

Rotation points missingGSW0.0PHX0.0

Points per game of rotation players (two or more of the last 10 games this season, 15+ minutes) listed Out or Doubtful on the official injury report.

GSW0.0pts/g missing

Every rotation player was available.

Source: official injury report, 2022-10-25 17:30 ET. 8 rotation players.

PHX0.0pts/g missing

Every rotation player was available.

Source: official injury report, 2022-10-25 17:30 ET. 7 rotation players.

RestGSW2 daysPHX2 days

Days since the team's previous game, capped at 5. One day means the second night of a back-to-back.

GSW2days

Last played Oct 23 against SAC.

PHX2days

Last played Oct 23 against LAC.

The last 10 games behind these numbers, box-score totals

GSW

DateOppScoreFG3PFTTOVOREBOffDefPace
Oct 23SAC130–12545-8714-3326-36136117.1113.6110.5
Oct 21DEN123–12842-8815-4424-27187113.9120.8107.0
Oct 18LAL123–10945-9916-4517-231811107.097.3113.5
Jun 16@BOS103–9038-9219-468-81515109.696.893.5
Jun 13BOS104–9441-889-4013-1564107.295.997.5
Jun 10@BOS107–9740-9115-4312-151616111.5101.096.0
Jun 8@BOS100–11636-7815-4013-15166106.4122.194.5
Jun 5BOS107–8839-8615-3714-20126110.389.897.5
Jun 2BOS108–12039-8819-4511-151412114.9129.093.5
May 26DAL120–11045-8814-3616-161014129.0119.692.5

PHX

DateOppScoreFG3PFTTOVOREBOffDefPace
Oct 23@LAC112–9543-9315-4211-121213114.397.997.5
Oct 21@POR111–11343-9410-2715-21169102.8103.798.3
Oct 19DAL107–10540-858-2219-22128113.8110.594.5
May 15DAL90–12333-8712-3412-18121597.8132.392.5
May 12@DAL86–11331-786-1818-21221391.5120.294.0
May 10DAL110–8043-8712-3212-161212117.085.194.0
May 8@DAL101–11139-849-2514-181712108.6116.894.0
May 6@DAL94–10334-7613-2813-15179105.6114.489.5
May 4DAL129–10949-7613-2518-21164134.4111.297.0
May 2DAL121–11446-9111-2818-18913130.1120.094.0

Off and Def are points scored and allowed per 100 possessions in each game; their averages are the 10-game ratings above. OREB is missing (–) where the source data didn't record it.

The result against the forecast

2022-23 surprise games
45%
pregame chance the forecast gave PHX, the winner
the forecast favored GSW
31 pts
margin miss
forecast −2, actual +29 for PHX
343rd
most surprising result of 2022-23
of 1,314 graded games
22nd
largest margin miss of 2022-23
outcome surprise 0.80 nats

Surprise is measured against this model's forecast, not against what other observers expected. Outcome surprise is −ln(winner's pregame probability): 0.69 for a coin flip, 2.3 for a 10% winner.

Team box score

What happened in the game. These numbers are not used by the forecast, and they are not offered as the reason it missed.

Team statGSWPHX
Final score105134
Field goals41–91 · 45.1%47–92 · 51.1%
Three-pointers10–35 · 28.6%12–29 · 41.4%
Free throws13–17 · 76.5%28–34 · 82.4%
Rebounds4048
Assists2831
Turnovers1313
Steals78
Blocks74

Where the forecast differed from the result

MeasureForecastActualActual − forecast
Home margin (PHX)−2+29+31
Total points212239+27
GSW points107105−2
PHX points105134+29

Recent form before this game

Golden State Warriors

DateOpponentResult
Oct 23 vs SAC W 130–125
Oct 21 vs DEN L 123–128
Oct 18 vs LAL W 123–109
Jun 16 at BOS W 103–90
Jun 13 vs BOS W 104–94

Phoenix Suns

DateOpponentResult
Oct 23 at LAC W 112–95
Oct 21 at POR L 111–113
Oct 19 vs DAL W 107–105
May 15 vs DAL L 90–123
May 12 at DAL L 86–113

Previous meetings

DateMatchupScore
Mar 30 2021-22 PHX at GSW PHX 107 – 103 GSW
Dec 25 2021-22 GSW at PHX GSW 116 – 107 PHX
Dec 3 2021-22 PHX at GSW PHX 96 – 118 GSW
Nov 30 2021-22 GSW at PHX GSW 96 – 104 PHX